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Scottish Inter-faith week–the lack of Christian charity in Aberdeen

  

Earlier this year ESS revealed that the Scottish Government had granted over £376,000 this year to faith and inter-faith organisations.

Most faith organisations are charities and benefit from numerous tax subsidies, so why do they need additional public funding to engage in friendly relations with other religious denominations? Should that not be part of their raison d’etre? Why should the public pay for problems brought about by religious short-sightedness? Should denominations not rectify them by their own endeavours?

In the week when faith organisations are celebrating and attempting to bridge divides between denominations with Scottish Government funding, ESS can reveal that on 27 June 2012 Aberdeen City Council convened a meeting of local religious interests to determine who would be the third legally-required religious representative nominated by religious organisations to serve as a voting member on the Education Committee in addition to the nominees of the Church of Scotland and the Church of Rome. Present were representatives of the following denominations;

Aberdeen Hindu Association;  Aberdeen Mosque Islamic Centre;  Aberdeen Vineyard;
City Church;  Crown Terrace Baptist Church;  Deeper Life Bible Church; St Devenick’s Episcopal Church; St Mary’s Episcopal Church; The Mission Church.

On a vote, the representative of St Devenick’s Episcopal Church was elected by 7 votes to 2 over the Islamic representative. So much for Christian charity, inter-faith collaboration and support for diversity. 

All three religious nominee voting places on the Aberdeen Education Committee are thus controlled by Christians in a city where only 40 per cent of the population were recorded as Christian in the 2011 census

Scottish churches worried by the resurgence of secularism

    

The rise of articulate and influential secularism in Scotland in the last few years clearly has the religious establishment rattled. The Pope Emeritus railed against ‘aggressive’ secularism. The Roman Catholic Cardinal for Edinburgh and St Andrews criticises ‘ill-tempered’ secularism. The newly appointed minister at St Giles Cathedral, Edinburgh, the flagship kirk of Scotland, has been imported from Chicago and, according to the Times, says that one of his priorities will be to confront ‘raucous’ secularism. ESS looks forward to hearing the views of Rev Calum MacLeod, formerly of the Fourth Presbyterian Church, Chicago, on the separation of church and state.

Could it be that the religious authorities are so rattled because secularists have increasingly exposed and challenged the unjustified privileges granted to some religious denominations such as having financial subsidies of various types from the Scottish Government, a separate system of schooling, the right to impose prayers in schools, and to nominate voting members to otherwise elected local authority education committees?

Secularists simply use the mechanisms of democracy to challenge such religious privileges and promote the separation of church and state. ESS looks forward to more democratic debate and decision making on these issues.

New visitors to this site are encouraged to read the reasoned case for secularism put out in these posts and join the ESS.

Worrying words from the Lord High Commissioner to the Church of Scotland

At the opening of the Annual Assembly of the Church of Scotland on Saturday 17 May 2014 the Lord High Commissioner, Prince Edward gave an address on the theme of community, contrasting "the assertion of legalistic rights" with the Christian teaching of responsibility.

Could this possibly be a reference to the persistence of the Church of Scotland and the Scottish Government refusing to consider that the decades long arrangements whereby three church voting representatives are added to each local authority education committee in Scotland might actually not be inconformity with the Equality and Human Rights Act 0f 2010?. Does he mean that religious concepts of ‘responsibility’ should allow churches and the Scottish Government not to follow the law?

The Church and Scottish Government are in dangerous constitutional territory if this unlawfulness continues. Scotland should be subject to the rule of law, not the interests of powerful groups and interests.

See the letter by ESS Honorary President, Professor Norman Bonney, in the Scotsman Monday 19 May 2014

http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/letters/kirk-s-stance-smacks-of-arrogance-1-3414898

‘Reconciliation is the business of the church’

Says the new Moderator of the Church of Scotland. But what about:

  • the over 500 year split with the Church of Rome?
  • the refusal to give up Church of Scotland nominations to every Scottish local authority education committee
  • Insistence on conducting religious observance in all ‘non-denominational’ state schools
  • insistence on continuing preeminent positions among churches if voters agree to independence
  • insistence on continuing with legal privileges established with the Act of Union of 1707 even if there is a new Scottish constitution after a ‘yes’ vote
  • claims Church should be able to continue to conduct marriages and conduct prison chaplaincies

Not much of a record of achievement of reconciliation there!

Image from Coventry Cathedral

ESS will continue fighting to remove religious nominees from Scottish council education committees

In a letter published in the Times Educational Supplement ESS chair Colin Emerson stresses that a letter from the Equality and Human Rights Commission has not even been considered by the Scottish Government or the Scottish Parliament in relation to the ESS petition. ESS will fight on! However inconvenient for the major political parties, the existing laws must be assessed as to conformity with the UK Equality and Human Rights Act of 2010

http://tinyurl.com/bwdrzdr

1700 petitioners spurned by the Scottish Parliament and Scottish Government

Iranian mullahs guide the state in Iran. Some analogies in Scotland?

On Tuesday 6 May 2014 the Education and Culture Committee of the Scottish Parliament ended consideration of a petition led by Edinburgh Secular Society and supported by 1700 signatories urging that legislation be brought forward to end the practice of three religious voting nominees being added to Scottish local council education committees.

The brief discussion included no reference to a letter from the Equalities and Human Rights Commission that stated that the existing laws needed review in the light of the UK Equality Act 2010 which offers equal protection for religious people and for the non-religious. Members of the Committee with its SNP majority meekly acceded to the inaction on the matter by the Scottish Government with the Convenor, Stewart Maxwell, SNP MSP, saying there was no point in taking action because the Scottish Government had decided not to act.

What a weak apology for a legislature! The Committee did not entertain any discussion of Equality and Human Rights Commission’s letter which challenges the legal basis of the current arrangements and did not even consider summoning and interrogating  the responsible Scottish Government minister, Mike Russell, to investigate his reasons for not following the suggestions in the letter,

Scotland and the petitioners need better practice than this if representative democracy is to thrive under the present constitutional arrangements or any future ones.

END rule by Scotland’s mullahs!

ESS will continue to pursue this campaign by other democratic means. Scotland’s education committees do not need mullahs to check on the work of their elected council members.

Colin Emerson & Norman Bonney present the ESS petition to The Scottish Parliament

Bill submitted to Scottish Parliament that would abolish religious representatives on education committees

Originally posted on secularism.org.uk: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 10:39

Bill submitted to Scottish Parliament that would abolish religious representatives on education committees

An independent Member of the Scottish Parliament, John Finnie, has given his support to a campaign to remove the legal right of religious groups to vote on education matters on local council committees.

Mr Finnie has submitted a Private Member’s Bill that seeks to remove the mandatory involvement of religious representatives on these committees.

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[News release] John Finnie MSP Bill to remove religious representatives | Edinburgh Secular Society endorse Finnie’s Bill

News release |Embargoed until 14:00hrs, Tuesday, 5th November 2013

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  • Edinburgh Secular Society (ESS) endorses MSP J. Finnie’s proposed Bill to remove the legal obligation for unelected religious representatives to be appointed to all local authority education committees.
  • ESS states that the proposed Bill will enhance local accountability by removing a privilege that is inherently and profoundly undemocratic.
  • ESS calls on all mainstream religions, minority faith groups, secular groups, elected politicians, parents and individual citizens to actively support the democratic principles and aims of the proposed Bill.

ESS welcomes MSP J. Finnie’s proposed Bill in relation to religious representatives on local authority education committees. The current position, whereby religious representatives are appointed to all 32 local authority education committees, is untenable in a democratic society.

  • Every education committee in Scotland is statutorily obliged to appoint three religious representatives.
  • These individuals are not elected, but have full voting rights. They are merely nominated by their respective religious organisations.
  • 2011 census results show all those professing religious beliefs total just over one half of all Scots. There is no mandate for this privileged influence over our education system.
  • They are accountable only to their respective religious organisations and cannot be voted out by the public.
  • The legislation requires one Catholic, one Protestant and one other religious representative; this seems to reinforce the tolerance of a sectarian and secular division in Scottish society.

The proposed Bill complements ESS’s petition, currently lodged with the Scottish Parliament, calling for the repeal of section 124 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973, as amended by Section 31 of the Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994. http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01498

During research for the petition, ESS discovered, that despite the Church of Scotland’s claim that they are impartial on Local Authority Education Committees, the Church and Society Council reported to the General Assembly that they:

‘…estimate that these three Church Representatives hold the

balance of power on 19 Local Authority Committees’ [1]

We believe that the proposed Bill offers an opportunity to create a fairer Scotland by enhancing local democracy and accountability. As such, ESS calls on all sections of society, including churches, minority faith groups, secular groups, elected politicians, parents and individual citizens to support the democratic aims of the Bill.

In particular, ESS urges the mainstream churches within Scotland to grasp this opportunity to support and help shape a future which places the democratic principles that underpin our society at the core of our local education system. ESS, working in partnership with MSP J Finnie’s office, is willing to collaborate with any group and discuss how best to progress and support the aims of the proposed Bill.

Quotes from ESS Board members:

“To afford a particular section of society a privileged position within the decision-making process of local government, based solely on their particular and personal religious beliefs, is profoundly and inherently undemocratic, unfair and discriminatory. It strikes against those specific virtues of justice and integrity underpinning our society and which lie at the heart of The Scottish Parliament.”

Professor Norman Bonney – Honorary President Edinburgh Secular Society

“The proposed Bill affords an opportunity for the mainstream churches and our elected politicians to reflect and act on the changing demographics within Scotland. They can show vision and leadership by actively supporting the Bill and the democratic principles that lie behind it. We sincerely hope they do so. “

Gary McLelland – Chair Edinburgh Secular Society

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NOTES TO EDITOR

  • For further information contact Gary McLelland – Chairman on 07813060713 or Colin Emerson – Vice-Chair on 07706837007.
  • ESS believes in freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
  • ESS is affiliated to the National Secular Society, although views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the NSS.

[1] (Church of Scotland Church and Society Council Deliverance to CoS General Assembly  May 2013 p3/31 para 11.4.3)http://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/13790/3_CHURCH_and_SOCIETY_2013.pdf

Edinburgh Secular Society moves for an end to unelected religious representatives

News release – Embargoed until –Monday 14th October

Edinburgh Secular Society (ESS) has lodged a petition with the Scottish Parliament in relation to religious representatives on local authority education committees. The petition calls on the Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to bring forward legislative proposals to repeal Section 124 of the Local Government Act.

This would end the legal obligation on local authorities to appoint three unelected religious representatives to sit on their education committees.

The petition is available to view via the Scottish Parliament’s website:

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/gettinginvolved/petitions/ViewPetitions.aspx

The National Secular Society, Humanist Society Scotland and University of Edinburgh Humanist Society support the petition.

  • Every one of Scotland’s 32 local authority education committees in Scotland is legally obliged to appoint three religious representatives.
  • In most areas two religious representatives are nominated from each of the Catholic Church and Church of Scotland, with one other being appointed by the local authority.
  • 2011 census results show that almost half of all Scots profess no religious beliefs. This figure is higher among young people. There is no mandate for this privileged influence over our education system.
  • Religious representatives are accountable only to their respective religious organisations and cannot be voted out by the public, yet they have full voting rights on the committees.
  • The Church of Scotland has recognised this, reporting that ‘. . . Church representatives hold the balance of power on 19 local authority committees’.

That religious representatives have a direct influence on the education of our children is an unwelcome throwback to when churches used to run our schools prior to 1872.  ESS recognises the historical role that religious organisations played in the early education system; however changing demographics of our increasingly secular society make the current position untenable. It is profoundly undemocratic and needs to change.

Education committees may choose to draw on the wisdom of many advisory bodies experienced in the education of children, but why are religious leaders directly involved in governing the local education system?  They should be free to give their counsel like any other individual or group but should not have a direct role in governing the education system. Even if they wanted to, groups like humanists, secularists and atheists are prevented from taking up a seat as a religious representative as they do not have a “place of worship” which the legislation requires.

ESS has published the names of all the religious nominees on Scotland’s education committees http://edinburghsecularsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Religious-Reps-Edinburgh-Secular-Society-July-2013.pdf

Our Local Authority Education Committees sometimes have to deal with other public concerns about religion in education, such as Veronica Wikman’s petition[1] to remove religious observance from non-denominational schools in Edinburgh. Such concerns should not be handled by individuals with a vested interest in the status quo. 

In addition, Church of Scotland guidance to its religious representatives on education committees advises them to encourage school Chaplains to introduce faith-based resources to schools for use in the delivery of Curriculum for Excellence.[2]

Colin Emerson, ESS Vice-chair states:

“To afford a particular section of society a privileged position within the decision making process of local government, based solely on their particular and personal religious beliefs, is profoundly and inherently undemocratic, unfair and discriminatory. It strikes against those specific virtues of justice and integrity underpinning our society and which lie at the heart of the Scottish Parliament.”

Patrick Harvie, MSP for Glasgow, comments:

“In a society in which increasing numbers of people don’t practice any religion, it’s high time that we questioned a practice which gives religious hierarchies an influence over every child’s education. I’m particularly concerned at the involvement of people who would promote utterly unscientific notions like creationism; pushing this absurd ideology at children is the very opposite of education.”

City of Edinburgh Councillor Sandy Howat (an elected member on the City of Edinburgh Children and Families Committee) states:

“Unelected, unaccountable and I would suggest untenable? Undemocratic influence over public education is fundamentally at odds with the principles of respect, equality and shared freedoms. All contributions to committee deliberations should be welcomed, yet continued undemocratic privilege of the few over the many is an out-dated tradition we should remove.  As we look to create a fairer Scotland with liberty at its core, we need to ask ourselves what this ‘privilege’ says about our values; it’s time for a new enlightenment.”

Alistair McBay the Scottish spokesperson of the National Secular Society states:

"From the evidence we have of churches leveraging their chaplaincy roles in schools and the religious observance guidelines for the purposes of evangelism, so they also leverage these undemocratic positions for their own self-serving interests. Why else would the Kirk, for example, highlight these roles in its Education Committee work plan and provide training courses, handbooks etc. so as to provide "better trained local authority reps able to be more effective on LA Education Committees". Effective for whose ultimate benefit, exactly?"

Humanist Society Scotland’s education officer, Patrick McGlinchey states:

"Humanist Society Scotland’s vision is of a secular education system where all pupils within a community are schooled together, not divided on the religious beliefs of their parents.

Ensuring that education policy lies with locally elected representatives and not in the hands of religious organisations would be a positive step towards this vision of a system that put the child first." 

Ian Scott, Secretary of University of Edinburgh Humanist Society states:

“Religious (and nonreligious) figures are perfectly at liberty to put forth their views to committees, but citizens in a democracy rightly expect that those actually taking the decisions about how their children are educated are elected in a fair and transparent manner; not dropped in from on high by out-of-touch, often highly socially conservative, religious bodies, given a free pass to impose their dogma on children.”

ESS calls upon The Scottish Parliament to begin legislation to remove this out-dated and unrepresentative practice.

We ask that everyone who values a free, inclusive and secular society sign our petition at:

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01498

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  • Speakers available for TV/Radio and other interviews.  For further information contact Gary McLelland Chairman on 07813060713 or Colin Emerson Vice-Chairman on 07706837007
  • ESS is a leading secular campaign group in Scotland. We are based in Edinburgh and cover a range of national issues relating to Secularism.  ESS believes in freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
  • ESS is affiliated to the National Secular Society, although views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the NSS

[1]

http://edinburghsecularsociety.com/2013/04/15/petition-to-remove-religious-observance-from-nondenominational-schools-scheduled-for-hearing-by-the-city-of-edinburgh-council-petitions-committee-on-june-3rd/

[2] http://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/13295/302_C_and_S_Reps_Handbook_Leaflet6.pdf

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